Yes, I can remember something along those lines when I told other children that Jesus was Michael the Archangel. The looks on their faces were really something when I dropped that one on them. I quickly found out that pretty much no one except JW's believes that particular doctrine. It was an early lesson for me to check things out before I opened my mouth. It also was a very early lesson about how far from mainstream the Borg was.
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Hindsight is 20/20 and Bizarre at Best
by jwundubbed inwhen i was a kid, living in quakertown pa, i tried to play with the kids in the neighborhood.
it was a new and small neighborhood with just a handful of kids, but they were all in my generation.
one day the boy across the street comes up to me and two girls from down the street and tells us he just got a ouija board and we should all play.
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Big Dog
I would love to live long enough to see the whole thing burn to the ground.
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Just had a thought…
by Vidiot ini been reading quite a few experiences on reddit lately, and their seems to be a common theme coming up….
…dialed-up-to-eleven shunning of xjws by their witness relatives.. it reminds me of back in the day, listening to some of the over-the-top vitriol displayed by hard-core loyalists when the topic of evolution or apostates came up….
…i was gobsmacked when i finally realized these guys weren’t offended and indignant because they thought it was lies….
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Big Dog
@ Vidiot
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
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"...The Most Important Day of the Year" Watchtower January,2024
by Listener inwhat a mockery that statement is to over 99% of their followers.
there is nothing biblically that makes the jw memorial day important to anyone that does not partake.
they still continue to say .
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Big Dog
When I described what went on at the JW memorial to a Catholic friend they completely freaked out. Once they asked some questions and understood what went on they said, that's like and anti communion. They basically reject Christ as they pass the bread and wine along without consuming any. They felt it was more akin to a Satanic ritual of rejection and denial of Jesus' offer.
I had never thought of it that way and found that description more than a little apt.
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Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom
by KerryKing inthis morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.
surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.
i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..
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Big Dog
I definitely got the sense that the WBTS was very pro-vaccine during the pandemic from comments my family made but I never inquired as to why. So, I will inquire now, why were they so pro-vaccine? They are typically opposed to most government mandates which made the rabid pro-vax position very curious.
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Governing body
by moley inare the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .
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From my experience institutions like churches, governments, corporations, etc tend to take on a life of their own after they have been in existence for a while. Typically, after the individuals responsible for creating the entity die off you end up with stewards whose primary goal is to keep the entity chugging along on its predetermined course. Occasionally someone downstream might get the reins and attempt to adjust the course but that is always a battle against the inertia that the entity has acquired and is often unsuccessful.
It would seem the charismatic leaders of the last century of the WBTS are long gone and what you have left are a group of corporate goons whose only goal is to keep the gravy train going.
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Another big win for child molesters!
by lastmanstanding init just keeps getting easier and easier to molest.
when big religion has got your back, and you know that you can rape kids with impunity as father religion keeps the door to heaven swinging wide, 24/7 absolution available for the superstitious pedo, why not should everyone rape kids….
the pedophile loophole, the mainstay of the whitewashed, clergy penitent privilege, the hole e grail of the christian whore is swinging open, welcoming the perverts.
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Big Dog
The public policy behind privileged communications is that we want people to be able to seek help without fear of reprisal or prosecution. The idea is that it is more important for people to get help than to punish them for prior bad acts. There are only a handful of legally protected relationships in the US and the law is not uniform, some are social worker-client, attorney-client, religious cleric-parishioner, psychologist-patient, spousal privilege, reporter-source and doctor-patient.
The privilege protects the communication between the parties from being subject to legal subpoena and being used as evidence against an individual. The privilege does not protect the threat of futured illegal acts or contemplated harm, only acts in the past.
It can be difficult at best to weigh the competing interests between wanting people to seek help and prosecuting them for prior crimes. There is an old saying that hard cases make bad laws, meaning that basing a law on a particularly difficult set of facts or bad outcome is not always the best idea.
Would we rather someone get counseling and perhaps stop whatever it is they are doing, or would we rather see that they are punished? If we begin carving out exceptions to the privilege rule that is usually a slippery slope towards nullifying it.
Also, I suspect most of the time the professional will admonish the confessor to cease their activities and even confess and accept punishment for them. I can see the value of a patient being able to tell his physician that he has been ingesting illegal drugs so that the doctor may treat him properly without worrying about the physician calling the police and reporting him after he leaves the office or a reporter being able to protect a source that delivers important information about some wrongdoing so that they don't have to fear for their life.
All privilege is like any other law or rule, it's a line we draw in the sand and there will always be situations just on the other side of the line that we don't like. I hate it that pedophiles can be shielded from prosecution due to clerical privilege but I'm not sure what the answer is as I believe privilege has sound public policy behind it.
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Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.
45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.
46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .
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Big Dog
PetrW and Boogerman,
Thank you for the clarification. I was looking at the term slave through contemporary lens and didn't appreciate all of the nuances the word could carry, especially in biblical times. That explains quite a bit.
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Has the Watchtower Faithful Slave become the Evil Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat evidence suggests to you that the wt f&ds is actually more like the es of matthew 24?.
45¶who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?.
46blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.. .
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Big Dog
I have wondered at the use of the word slave, a word that typically has universally negative connotations. Isn't a "faithful" slave something of an oxymoron? Does a slave have a choice whether to be faithful or not? Don't they operate under threat of physical coercion for any transgression or for not following the master's orders? I wouldn't see much value or fidelity in a slave carrying out orders, I would see more in the way of self-preservation in those acts. The faithfulness of a partner or an employee would certainly seem to be more meaningful than one's chattel property.
All this talk of being slaves to God seems a bit, off, to say the least. Is that really the relationship that we would seek or want to foster?
In a broader sense I have always wondered why the bible was largely silent on the topic of slavery, something today's society has condemned as evil.
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Israel vs Hamas
by Riley inwe might have russians involved in the middle east and are attacking israel.. wait.. i thought the watchtower and tract society was the central figures in the end times.
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not that i believe in any of this nonsense but any news in jw world about how the evangelical narrative might be playing out closer than the wts stupidity.
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Big Dog
Listen to Blondie, she knows what she is talking about.
Trying to divine when the end of the world is coming, if it is in fact coming which is a different discussion, is a parlor game at best and a waste of time at the worst.
I can remember all of the pseudo-scientific calculations with Daniel and his prophecies. I hated that study book more than most and that's saying something.
End times porn.